Deskless Ergonomic Work-From-Home Setups


With the recent mass migration to working from home to help mitigate the spread of covid-191, there are likely many people out there who are working from home for the first time, and do not yet have a very ergonomic setup. It occurred to me that some of my alternative computer setups might be helpful. If you are spending lots of time on the computer, it's worthwhile to experiment and hone your ergonomics. Your body will thank you!

The purpose of this post is to share a few strategies for easy and inexpensive ergonomic2 home setups, some of which may easily be seen as highly unusual. Since these ideas might help people work in much healthier ways, I wanted to present them in the best light possible, by carefully writing more structured, instructive, and prettier posts.

But you know what? Screw it! These massive societal transitions are happening right now, so this post was written in a few days, and just does a surface-level description of a variety of ideas. Hopefully the details will be filled in / clarified in the future. In the meantime, hopefully you find something useful despite the gaps!

Suspending your laptop / monitor

Typically your screen is supported by a desk. I've found suspending my screen to be a versatile, portable, and convenient way to position it. It is ergonomically helpful to entirely decouple the positioning of your screen from the positioning of your keyboard, so that both can be in a comfortable position. Here is my most recent setup:

photo of a recliner with a monitor suspended by rope

Most of this setup is described in my "Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk" post, the new bit is the suspended monitor!

The materials involved here are:

back of suspended monitor

This has worked shockingly well! The ropes have not slipped off the corners, even when carrying the monitor around suspended upright like this. There is a potential risk that might happen at some point, so I've ordered a monitor mount$ which I believe will provide an attachment point directly above the monitor's center of mass.

Update: The mount arrived! I prefer it to the rope approach. See footnote3 for details.

There's a lot of versatility and adjustability here:

Doing this with full size, 26lb (~12kg) monitors is a recent thing for me. Previously I'd only done this with laptops4 – for example in my post about supine computing. Here's a photo from that post:

Using a computer ergonomically in a hammock, via external split keyboard and computer suspended above head

I do this supine posture more frequently on a couch or bed, or the floor, but hammocks are my favorite! Since that post already goes into some details of the supine posture, I won't cover it much more in this one.

Deskless standing keyboard

Ok, remember what I wrote earlier about unusual but effective ideas? This is the one I've been most hesitant to share more broadly, because it initially looks very strange, but works fantastically well. Please mentally substitute in alternate versions of these pictures that make the idea seem super cool and practical to you.

photo of standing with a monitor suspended by rope, keyboard suspended from pants


attaching keyboard step 1attaching keyboard step 2attaching keyboard step 3

You might wonder why these pictures are outside. Well, they were originally intended for my "Tree Based Computing" post which describes a highly portable way to use your computer outside7, without sacrificing ergonomics. See that post for a few more pictures of this keyboarding posture.

This might seem too simple, perhaps not rotationally stable enough. However, I've found that rotation isn't a problem in practice – all that is needed is support that's roughly centered. I arrived at this approach after a fair bit of experimentation. See, for example, one of the very first iterations, in this photo from 2017:

early tree based computing

Back then, I'd just assumed the keyboard needed rotational stability, and had two of the massive 28" zip ties crossing each other to create offset attachment points. I then used normal size releasable zip ties$ to secure these to my jeans' belt loops. It turns out all that complex setup was unnecessary – just one giant zip tie does just as well.

People's proportions, such as ape factor differ quite a bit, so it may be that you need more adjustability than I do. Using the releasable zip ties to secure the giant zip ties does have a nice advantage of providing finer adjustment of the keyboard's vertical position8.

Why a deskless standing keyboard?

You might be wondering, quite reasonably, why do something so odd looking with your keyboard? There are some very good reasons! Here are a few:

Stay tuned for more details, I have a post in progress going into more depth. Particularly, it explores more why this postures is ergonomically sound, and how to do it with split keyboards10.

Too wild? How about laptop stand, a box, or shelf!

Ok, I imagine for many of you this seems too weird or too much work. That's fine! I have some ideas for quick ergonomic hacks. It's no coincidence that all of these pictures happen to be from travel.

Treadmill computing!

Walking on a treadmill while using a computer is a wonderful way to get some exercise. I find that after 10 or 20 minutes of walking, some nice exercise endorphins begin to release, which feel good and potentially aid in productivity.

Beyond that effect, I think there is something deeply satisfying about moving forward. Our minds might know that we are making great progress by sitting, thinking, and typing, but how are our bodies feeling about this? I'm quite certain they prefer to move. I think of it in terms of our evolutionary history – back in prehistory, prehumanity even, we'd be doomed to starvation if not regularly hunting, foraging, and exploring. Deep down, we feel like something is wrong if we aren't regularly moving and spending time outside.

Here's a photo of one of my most photogenic treadmill desk configurations, outside on a deck, from the summer of 2018:

treadmill desk on deck with trees in the background

Unlike the other strategies here, this certainly isn't deskless, and involves some expensive equipment11. I don't have this stuff in my new home in Colorado, as it didn't fit in my car.

Since I am now working from home, getting a new treadmill was quite justified. This time, I purchased a much less expensive treadmill$, which arrived a couple days ago. By affixing a cardboard produce box with couple releasable zip-ties, I ended up with a platform for my keyboard with a very nice tilt. This is likely to be totally different soon, but it's already quite decent. Here are a couple pictures:

diy treadmill desk under hammock stand, with monitor suspended

I've been pleasantly surprised by this treadmill – today I walked 8.5 miles while working! I can't really give a full review, since I've only had it for 2 days. It's not quite as smooth or quiet as the IMovr, but it's 1/5 the cost and works decently. I've put some more preliminary notes about it in a footnote12.

Update: The GoPlus / CostWay treadmill broke after only 130 miles of use in 6 weeks, which is pretty disappointing. See footnote13 for details.

One tip to wrap this section up – for me, listening to energetic music makes treadmill computing so much more sustainable for longer durations. This is also true of the standing postures, particularly as the music often inspires me to dance! Variation in position, dynamic movements, are far more sustainable for longer durations than attempting to stand or sit still.

Variety is key

I read the book "The Healthy Programmer"$, by Joe Kutner early in my journey of finding healthier ways to work. It's a helpful book, I particularly recommend it if you are feeling sedentary / inflexible / averse to exercise. My main takeaway was that periodically switching between a variety of decent postures is preferable to trying to find a single "optimal" one. This was particularly in the context of switching between sitting and standing, but it can also be applied to switching between the following two groups of postures:

I intentionally omitted sitting from the above groups, but certainly that's a viable option too. In terms of activeness it's somewhere between the above groups. To me the big issue with sitting is how easy and common it is to have compromised posture, particularly the classic slouching forward head posture, causing all kinds of spinal pain and related trouble. If it isn't mixed with more active postures, then there is also the issue with sitting being relatively sedentary.

There are lots of studies about the harmful effects of extended, chronic sitting. There are many studies about the dangers of being sedentary, including supine – laying down all day is not very healthy. There are even some studies suggesting that standing still for prolonged periods is deletorious. None of these postures are perfect, but I assert their negatives can be greatly mitigated by switching between them, so that none are done for extended periods.

I am not aware of any studies showing adverse effects of lots of walking or dancing :)

  1. If you're tired of everything being about covid-19, my apologies for bringing it up at the beginning. It is the direct cause of me rushing these ideas out in the form of this post, though.↩︎

  2. I am a hobbyist in ergonomics, I have no credentials related to ergonomics, nor have I studied much of the academic literature on the topic. Mostly, I've just followed my own intuition, sought what feels good, and avoided what causes pain. So please take my advice with a grain of salt, and perhaps experiment to see what works for you!↩︎

  3. The new monitor mount$ is working well, pretty much out-of-the-box! It is much heavier-duty than I anticipated, which is great, but also heavy, which is a little inconvenient when attaching to carrabiners, but not bad. I now prefer this to the rope approach even though the rope approach never gave me trouble. I anticipate that eventually the rope approach would have gone awry and busted the screen. No pics for now, perhaps later!↩︎

  4. For suspending something as light as laptops, I've also found that "Multi Purpose No Drilling Required Ceiling Hooks Suspension and Wall Hooks Hangers"$ from the cryptic brand "CRH600" work quite well. The nice thing about these are that they do not require any permanent modifications to the ceiling.↩︎

  5. It's a bit silly, but an alternative for jeans and other pants with a fly is to thread the giant zip tie through the top of the fly.↩︎

  6. The Kinesis particularly ends up at a nice angle if you get the drawstring on the front side (the side with the keys).↩︎

  7. A substantial chunk of this post was written outside with my computer on a tree post :) Here's a pic↩︎

  8. Another option for keyboard suspension is… suspenders! Well, not exactly, ordinary suspenders are likely too elastic. I've experimented with using rope around the shoulders, and it worked pretty decently – very adjustable! It wasn't for me, though, no significant advantages over pant attachment.↩︎

  9. I know of several people who report that this keyboard position has relieved their wrist pain. I might go into details of these anecdotes, with their permission, in future posts.

    Thankfully, I personally haven't had much wrist discomfort in recent years. Many years ago I started having early symptoms, which caused me to take evasive action. Specifically, I got into split keyboards and became more tuned in to how my hands/wrists feel in a given position.↩︎

  10. The gist of it is to wear pants with a belt or belt loops. Then use string or releasable zip ties to thread around the belt or loops, to attachment points on the corners of the keyboard halves. For the Keyboardio Model 01 the best approach I've found is to use bike rack struts like these$. The slot of the bike rack strut perfectly fits the shank of 1/4" screws that go into the keyboardio mounting hole. I haven't purchased those particular ones, but I imagine the slot size is pretty standard. This creates a rigid attachment point above the keyboard half's center of mass. For the ErgoDox, the best approach I had was to use loops of string through the corner holes for the screws. More details and images in a future post, hopefully soon! :)↩︎

  11. Materials involved in the more elaborate outdoor treadmill desk: * IMovR ThermoTread GT Treadmill$ * Focal Mogo leaning stool$ * Ergotron WorkFit-S$ * Ergotron LX Dual Side-By-Side Arm$ * Ergotron Tall-User Kit$ x 2 * Herman Miller Embody Chair$↩︎

  12. A few notes about how my my experience of the "Goplus" / "Costway" / "Gymax" branded Treadmill$ compares to my recollection of using the IMovr Thermotread GT Treadmill$:

    • A fraction of the cost!
    • The GoPlus has a great hidden feature which I discovered only by experimentation. If you aren't walking on it, it doesn't increment the time and distance counters! This is really nice for taking a quick break but not throwing off your numbers if you're keeping track.
    • Nice to be able to go faster than 2.5mph (the IMovR's upper limit). I've found I can still type decently at about 3mph.
    • Much easier to move around than the IMovr, since it's about half the weight
    • Not as big of a walking platform. Initially I only noticed the lower width, which means I've gotta be fairly precise about my side-to-side position. After using it a while, I'm also finding that it's just barely long enough, and so occasionally a longer stride will end up hitting the guard plastic on the back. This is not too troublesome, just mildly annoying. For others it may be no issue, I'm larger than average.
    • Beeps loudly with every button press of the remote, which is annoying, definitely wouldn't be office friendly. I might open it up to disable whatever the beep is coming from.
    • Units are in kilometers instead of miles, which is fine, but not intuitive for me.
  13. Update: The GoPlus broke after only 130 miles in 6 weeks, which is pretty disappointing. * Details: It started losing torque / slipping the last time I used it, and I noticed the treadmill belt was rubbing against the side, increasing the load on the motor. This can usually be resolved by adjusting the treadmill feet to level it. I hadn't noticed during the session since I was listening to music. The next time I used the treadmill it moved a bit, but stopped when I walked on it and displayed an error code. Soon it stoppped entirely. So, I suspect there is an element of user error here, but still, a little extra torque shouldn't cause it to completely break so quickly. I did lubricate it regularly, so I don't think that was the issue. * New Treadmill: I trawled craigslist and ended up buying a lightly used IMovr for $700, so now using that. I wanted to get a LifeSpan treadmill to try out more options, but that didn't pan out and I know the IMovr works well for me.↩︎


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